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		<title>By: barticus</title>
		<link>http://www.zackgrossbart.com/hackito/the-library-problem/#comment-9860</link>
		<dc:creator>barticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody with &quot;bart&quot; in their name &amp; an organized home library has got MY attn!
So many great considerations in this blog will take a while to digest.  And to think I was two weeks INTO &quot;developing&quot; my own custrom cataloguing &quot;system&quot;; i.e. re-inventing the WHEEL? Or an &quot;INDEX&quot;? No WONDER I was feeling &quot;crushed&quot;. So, finally I tried the &quot;WEB&quot; &amp; Voila!  Guess my age &amp; habits of a physical~book nut lifetime kept me &quot;out of the loop&quot; until NOW!  THANKS for the BLOG &quot;ZG&quot;!
Big Bart Las Vegas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody with &#8220;bart&#8221; in their name &amp; an organized home library has got MY attn!<br />
So many great considerations in this blog will take a while to digest.  And to think I was two weeks INTO &#8220;developing&#8221; my own custrom cataloguing &#8220;system&#8221;; i.e. re-inventing the WHEEL? Or an &#8220;INDEX&#8221;? No WONDER I was feeling &#8220;crushed&#8221;. So, finally I tried the &#8220;WEB&#8221; &amp; Voila!  Guess my age &amp; habits of a physical~book nut lifetime kept me &#8220;out of the loop&#8221; until NOW!  THANKS for the BLOG &#8220;ZG&#8221;!<br />
Big Bart Las Vegas</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.zackgrossbart.com/hackito/the-library-problem/#comment-6438</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My suggestion is a way to satisfy the need to have some kind of exterior labelling without damaging the book or creating a lot of work.  Consider printing out some kind of single-sheet version of the record from your software with the LC call number showing at the top; the sheet can be folded and tucked into the book with the top and number exposed.  If you&#039;re finicky about looks, trim the sheet so that it sticks up like some kind of rare book collection flag.  Choose a fancy font and parchment paper or letterhead to give it a customized feel, like those old paste-in bookplates which we all love but can&#039;t bear to use.  Using library-style spine labels hurts book resale value like wallpaper hurts house resale value...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My suggestion is a way to satisfy the need to have some kind of exterior labelling without damaging the book or creating a lot of work.  Consider printing out some kind of single-sheet version of the record from your software with the LC call number showing at the top; the sheet can be folded and tucked into the book with the top and number exposed.  If you&#8217;re finicky about looks, trim the sheet so that it sticks up like some kind of rare book collection flag.  Choose a fancy font and parchment paper or letterhead to give it a customized feel, like those old paste-in bookplates which we all love but can&#8217;t bear to use.  Using library-style spine labels hurts book resale value like wallpaper hurts house resale value&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brf</title>
		<link>http://www.zackgrossbart.com/hackito/the-library-problem/#comment-5650</link>
		<dc:creator>Brf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I would&#039;ve found this link before I purchased Finderware a few years ago.   You are spot on with Finderware being more aimed at smaller libraries.  there are so many little quirks with that program and I&#039;ve emailed support multiple times pleading for an update to address the issues I&#039;ve identified.  They politely respond back thanking me for my input and &quot;great ideas&quot; but they never update the software. 

In the end I bit the bullet and purchased Readerware.  The program is awesome.  it is totally configurable with custom columns and so many ways the user can customize the views it&#039;s amazing.   The program will adapt to any library requirements  you may have, so if you&#039;re considering getting a library program to manage your book collection Readerware is simply the best.   Don&#039;t waste your time and money anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I would&#8217;ve found this link before I purchased Finderware a few years ago.   You are spot on with Finderware being more aimed at smaller libraries.  there are so many little quirks with that program and I&#8217;ve emailed support multiple times pleading for an update to address the issues I&#8217;ve identified.  They politely respond back thanking me for my input and &#8220;great ideas&#8221; but they never update the software. </p>
<p>In the end I bit the bullet and purchased Readerware.  The program is awesome.  it is totally configurable with custom columns and so many ways the user can customize the views it&#8217;s amazing.   The program will adapt to any library requirements  you may have, so if you&#8217;re considering getting a library program to manage your book collection Readerware is simply the best.   Don&#8217;t waste your time and money anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Odza</title>
		<link>http://www.zackgrossbart.com/hackito/the-library-problem/#comment-2852</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Odza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of making inkjet-printed labels water and smudge proof, I found Golden Archival Spray at an art store.... that was designed to protect inkjet (photo) prints. I sprayed all the label sheets and did a test -- water still smudges. This might mean at least two more spray coats. And the saga continues....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of making inkjet-printed labels water and smudge proof, I found Golden Archival Spray at an art store&#8230;. that was designed to protect inkjet (photo) prints. I sprayed all the label sheets and did a test &#8212; water still smudges. This might mean at least two more spray coats. And the saga continues&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Odza</title>
		<link>http://www.zackgrossbart.com/hackito/the-library-problem/#comment-2639</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Odza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Gem (11/21/2008) for the Cutter calculator website, and the OCLC site that tells the popularity of a classification number for a particular title.  

And Zack - utilizing &quot;gap and slack&quot; is going to be a lifesaver. Otherwise, the organization will be for naught, as the collection grows. The project has already inspired some purging, and the multiple copies turned up by this project are also an eye-opener!

I am sorry to say, in reference to a comment above,  that I inkjet-printed 45 pages of  labels and wish I had laser printed them, to save the effort of covering with clear tape afterwards. It&#039;s not too late, but a laser printer needs to be located. I am also going to take to heart Brad Knowles&#039; advice (12/12/07).  On the other hand, the clear tape protection can be applied at any time (before the next flood!). 
I am definitely recommending earthquake protection for these shelves!

It&#039;s not just kids that create havoc; the Siamese routinely inserts chaos into the lower shelves of paperback fiction: I am recommending that these be boxed in clear plastic archival quality boxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Gem (11/21/2008) for the Cutter calculator website, and the OCLC site that tells the popularity of a classification number for a particular title.  </p>
<p>And Zack &#8211; utilizing &#8220;gap and slack&#8221; is going to be a lifesaver. Otherwise, the organization will be for naught, as the collection grows. The project has already inspired some purging, and the multiple copies turned up by this project are also an eye-opener!</p>
<p>I am sorry to say, in reference to a comment above,  that I inkjet-printed 45 pages of  labels and wish I had laser printed them, to save the effort of covering with clear tape afterwards. It&#8217;s not too late, but a laser printer needs to be located. I am also going to take to heart Brad Knowles&#8217; advice (12/12/07).  On the other hand, the clear tape protection can be applied at any time (before the next flood!).<br />
I am definitely recommending earthquake protection for these shelves!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just kids that create havoc; the Siamese routinely inserts chaos into the lower shelves of paperback fiction: I am recommending that these be boxed in clear plastic archival quality boxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack Grossbart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack Grossbart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Emily!  Thank you so much for sharing the details of your project.  

I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t know enough about Excel to help you with your first question, but I know a lot about reshelving books.  The best solution I have found is to use slack and a gap.  Slack means knowing the books you have well enough to get a good idea where you should leaves some space on the shelves.  The gap mean using a mostly empty bookshelf in the middle.  As you sort the books the empty shelf gives you more space for shuffling things around.  

I hope this helps and good luck with your project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Emily!  Thank you so much for sharing the details of your project.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t know enough about Excel to help you with your first question, but I know a lot about reshelving books.  The best solution I have found is to use slack and a gap.  Slack means knowing the books you have well enough to get a good idea where you should leaves some space on the shelves.  The gap mean using a mostly empty bookshelf in the middle.  As you sort the books the empty shelf gives you more space for shuffling things around.  </p>
<p>I hope this helps and good luck with your project.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Odza</title>
		<link>http://www.zackgrossbart.com/hackito/the-library-problem/#comment-2632</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Odza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to my comment/description above, the rate of books catalogued per hour was also slowed down by the fact that Library of Congress often did not have the items (pamphlets, self-published books, etc.) in this very special library, at least not by the title of the edition that I had in front of me. Many of them however could be found in libraries that specialized in  or were local to the issues being written about. WorldCat was one way of quickly locating the item in a library. Then I &quot;copy catalogued&quot; what call number that librarian had assigned to the item. Often times, two libraries (for instances, both in the UC System but at different universities) would catalog the item differently. Here it wasn&#039;t too useful to split hairs, as the main purpose of the catalog was to group like items with like items, and to be able to find the damn book!

Another interesting fact is that often times the professor I was working for would have gathered some interesting fiction that related to or illustrated a particular subject or era in history and shelved it (in his informal system) with the nonfiction.  But in our new system, the fiction will be shelved far from its nonfiction cousins. However, Readerware stores keywords and subject headings, so I hope that the works of fiction can eventually be found again by consulting the catalog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to my comment/description above, the rate of books catalogued per hour was also slowed down by the fact that Library of Congress often did not have the items (pamphlets, self-published books, etc.) in this very special library, at least not by the title of the edition that I had in front of me. Many of them however could be found in libraries that specialized in  or were local to the issues being written about. WorldCat was one way of quickly locating the item in a library. Then I &#8220;copy catalogued&#8221; what call number that librarian had assigned to the item. Often times, two libraries (for instances, both in the UC System but at different universities) would catalog the item differently. Here it wasn&#8217;t too useful to split hairs, as the main purpose of the catalog was to group like items with like items, and to be able to find the damn book!</p>
<p>Another interesting fact is that often times the professor I was working for would have gathered some interesting fiction that related to or illustrated a particular subject or era in history and shelved it (in his informal system) with the nonfiction.  But in our new system, the fiction will be shelved far from its nonfiction cousins. However, Readerware stores keywords and subject headings, so I hope that the works of fiction can eventually be found again by consulting the catalog.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Odza</title>
		<link>http://www.zackgrossbart.com/hackito/the-library-problem/#comment-2629</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Odza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur with Zack that Readerware was the best choice I found for my recent project cataloging a 1700-book personal library of a U.S. history professor. I have a mac laptop and he has a PC, so it had to be cross-platform. 

I cataloged all the books shelf by shelf, labelling each item in the database with its shelf number (arbitrarily/temporarily assigned, 1-53). Because I am slightly a perfectionist, I averaged 20 books an hour because so many ISBN&#039;s (paperbacks mostly) were incorrect and many books did not have barcodes (I did purchase a high quality barcode scanner by SerialIO - the LaserChamp).  

In addition, he wanted labels. I ordered my labels from Brodart as they also supplied very detailed templates so I could create a custom label in MS Word (Avery doesn&#039;t have any appropriate labels).  I planned to use the merge feature with Word, using Excel or Word as the datasource.

Exporting from Readerware to Excel is a breeze. In Excel I cleaned up the Library of Congress call numbers but found that it did not alphabetize totally correctly (how do you tell Excel that HD 51 is a whole number and not a decimal so that it will place HD 51 before HD 4000? Excel experts out there - please help!). I did a bit of tweaking and further imported the data into a Word table in order to insert paragraph spaces so the labels would wrap correctly. (Used a combination of search and replace and manual techniques.)  I used the Word tables imported from Excel as datasources for my merge because of the better editing tools and better merge results.  The result of the merge are beautiful labels but a lot of hand correcting is needed. After they were perfect, I printed out all the labels and they are ready to apply shelf by shelf. The labels are in same order as each shelf of books, very nearly.  

Only then will we attempt to organize alphabetically by LOC number. Any suggestions? Each shelf is in LOC order but the whole library now has to be reshelved in the proper order.  We are also deliberating on whether to protect the books with clear tape first, and whether to apply the tape over the label as well. Some of the books are splendid volumes from the 20s, 30s, and 40s, and I purchased archival book ID strips, and will apply labels to those (they stick out the top). Wish us luck in the next phase!  

I will try to convince the professor that importing his books into Google Books or LibraryThing will be rewarding. In Google Books &quot;My Library&quot; you will have cover images (you can have them in Readerware as well if you auto-update using Amazon), and be able to search instantly by keyword and even for text snippets if the book has been digitized! However, the books will appear in no particular order that would be useful to you, though they are instantly findable.  You can carry your Readerware database around in a Palm-based system or on your netbook, or you can consult your &quot;Google&quot; or LibraryThing library to avoid buying duplicates.  

I imagine that in order to maintain this book catalog, newly obtained books will need to reside on the &quot;new shelf&quot; and when enough are accumulated, they will need to be scanned in to the catalog, and labels created, and then added. Leaving space in the most popular subject categories sounds like a good idea. 

I live in Oakland, CA and I&#039;m looking for my next project!!
-Emily

I am a library student and I found that grappling with the myriad problems associated with cataloging a personal library without all the cataloging tools at your disposal in a regular library was very challenging. Thank you Readerware, SerialIO, and all the suggestions I have read online!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with Zack that Readerware was the best choice I found for my recent project cataloging a 1700-book personal library of a U.S. history professor. I have a mac laptop and he has a PC, so it had to be cross-platform. </p>
<p>I cataloged all the books shelf by shelf, labelling each item in the database with its shelf number (arbitrarily/temporarily assigned, 1-53). Because I am slightly a perfectionist, I averaged 20 books an hour because so many ISBN&#8217;s (paperbacks mostly) were incorrect and many books did not have barcodes (I did purchase a high quality barcode scanner by SerialIO &#8211; the LaserChamp).  </p>
<p>In addition, he wanted labels. I ordered my labels from Brodart as they also supplied very detailed templates so I could create a custom label in MS Word (Avery doesn&#8217;t have any appropriate labels).  I planned to use the merge feature with Word, using Excel or Word as the datasource.</p>
<p>Exporting from Readerware to Excel is a breeze. In Excel I cleaned up the Library of Congress call numbers but found that it did not alphabetize totally correctly (how do you tell Excel that HD 51 is a whole number and not a decimal so that it will place HD 51 before HD 4000? Excel experts out there &#8211; please help!). I did a bit of tweaking and further imported the data into a Word table in order to insert paragraph spaces so the labels would wrap correctly. (Used a combination of search and replace and manual techniques.)  I used the Word tables imported from Excel as datasources for my merge because of the better editing tools and better merge results.  The result of the merge are beautiful labels but a lot of hand correcting is needed. After they were perfect, I printed out all the labels and they are ready to apply shelf by shelf. The labels are in same order as each shelf of books, very nearly.  </p>
<p>Only then will we attempt to organize alphabetically by LOC number. Any suggestions? Each shelf is in LOC order but the whole library now has to be reshelved in the proper order.  We are also deliberating on whether to protect the books with clear tape first, and whether to apply the tape over the label as well. Some of the books are splendid volumes from the 20s, 30s, and 40s, and I purchased archival book ID strips, and will apply labels to those (they stick out the top). Wish us luck in the next phase!  </p>
<p>I will try to convince the professor that importing his books into Google Books or LibraryThing will be rewarding. In Google Books &#8220;My Library&#8221; you will have cover images (you can have them in Readerware as well if you auto-update using Amazon), and be able to search instantly by keyword and even for text snippets if the book has been digitized! However, the books will appear in no particular order that would be useful to you, though they are instantly findable.  You can carry your Readerware database around in a Palm-based system or on your netbook, or you can consult your &#8220;Google&#8221; or LibraryThing library to avoid buying duplicates.  </p>
<p>I imagine that in order to maintain this book catalog, newly obtained books will need to reside on the &#8220;new shelf&#8221; and when enough are accumulated, they will need to be scanned in to the catalog, and labels created, and then added. Leaving space in the most popular subject categories sounds like a good idea. </p>
<p>I live in Oakland, CA and I&#8217;m looking for my next project!!<br />
-Emily</p>
<p>I am a library student and I found that grappling with the myriad problems associated with cataloging a personal library without all the cataloging tools at your disposal in a regular library was very challenging. Thank you Readerware, SerialIO, and all the suggestions I have read online!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read through all this very carefully, and I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t understand what it&#039;s for. Surely everybody knows that the correct place to store books is under the bed, and the one you want will be the one holding up the legless corner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read through all this very carefully, and I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t understand what it&#8217;s for. Surely everybody knows that the correct place to store books is under the bed, and the one you want will be the one holding up the legless corner?</p>
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		<title>By: Zack Grossbart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack Grossbart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paige,  The CPB Box number is a temporary number that indicates the LCC number is still pending.  You can either wait a little while, or check another library to see if they have more up to date information.  I like to use &lt;a href=&quot;http://libraries.mit.edu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://libraries.mit.edu/&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paige,  The CPB Box number is a temporary number that indicates the LCC number is still pending.  You can either wait a little while, or check another library to see if they have more up to date information.  I like to use <a href="http://libraries.mit.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://libraries.mit.edu/</a>.</p>
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